秃鹰,低价购买房产,在别人的不幸上牟利。
盈利动机。
里根时期,生产力大幅提升但是工人工资没涨,工人阶层还被鼓励借贷(家庭借贷几乎与GDP相等)、个人破产激增、犯罪率上升等,最富裕的美国人税率降低了一半。
通用公司GM破产
日本和德国:努力保证即便是保守党当选,也不会破坏他们的中产阶层。
布什:资本主义让人自由选择,公正和尊严
资本主义战胜了自由:受贿法官提高了定罪率(不公正定罪),将稍有过失的儿童送入青少年盈利机构(儿童服务中心),并且关押时间比被判的时间延长。
萨利机长收入降了四成,退休金被终止。飞行员的收入微薄,欠债。航空公司逐年降低飞行员工资,后者不得不靠打临工生活——薪水低、工作强度大,易出事故。
Dead Peasants insurance:银行为员工健康而秘密投保,保险受益人是银行——道德问题:从员工死亡得益。美国银行、梅林,沃尔玛…这些蓝筹股都涉嫌这种类型的投保。去世的员工越年轻公司获赔越多,因为他们的预期寿命更长,且女性的预期寿命比男性更长——年轻女性。而家人则承担全额医疗和丧礼费用。
资本主义与共同利益、同情心、宗教信仰相悖。
美国不再是Democracy而是Plutonomy(1%的富人比剩余95%的人有钱)富人成了国家新的管理层,唯一形成威胁的就是穷人的投票权,但是穷人幻想有朝一日成为富人(享受扩大贫富差距的利益)因此容忍这一点——富人拒绝共享财富。背离了宪法的初衷。
工作场所的公平,所有工人都是管理层(投票)。CEO和普通工人获得的利润一样,大大提高了生产率。
萨尔克医生,将疫苗专利权奉献给公众;如今最好的人才在金融业(需要20年偿还学生贷款)
Alan Greenspan
次贷
欠贷者在被赶出家门前,如果清理得干净,房主会收到一千美元。而对于位高权重者,可以减免他们的利息,免除费用,免除书面文件(FOA:friends of Angelo),其中许多人管理着国家的金融。
08年经济危机,恰好在大选前2个月(时机可疑)。
Robert Rubin美国前财长,在仁时修改法案允许商业银行进入如投资银行业和外国保险的新领域,他卸任后在花旗银行拿高薪就职。
Larry Summers 美国前财长,通过做顾问和发表演讲赚钱,现身一次十万;为对冲基金做顾问赚了520万。
Tim Geithner(《恐慌:2008金融危机背后不为人知的故事》被采访)领导了不少摧毁经济的机构。
布什政府相当于“高盛政府”,充斥了许多高盛前员工(包括Hank Paulson),正如克林顿政府。用纳税人的钱拯救高盛及其他金融机构。利用恐惧(大萧条的威胁),达到目的。第一次议案投票结果是不通过,但是民主党人与共和党人达成协议,致使国会改变。(“情报战”)
奥巴马政府,高盛称为奥巴马第一私人赞助者(一百万)。他的竞争者越说奥巴马是社会主义,后者民调越领先。
弗林特静坐(通用公司),罗斯福总统第二权利法案未通过(离世)。
导演:民主应当取代资本主义。
麦克摩尔,作为一个典型的愤中,一直不遗余力地揭露美国的伤疤。在他的新片里,美国已经到了水深火热的边缘,即将像罗马帝国一样崩溃。劳动人民不能保住自己的祖宅,不能保住自己的工作,华尔街控制了政府,只有工会才可以对抗贪婪的资本家,只有“社会主义”理想的奥巴马可以救美国。影片的结尾,奥巴马胜了,似乎美国即将发生“和平演变”。
可是,如果我们再仔细看这部片子,我们发现,麦克用来对比美国的是欧洲和日本,并没有用最强大的社会主义国家。他并没有我们期望的那么“左”。而且,影片的最后他也说:“我绝不会离开美国!”
作为一个精明的导演,麦克很清楚怎样可以吸引大家的眼球,善于挖掘热点,煽动情绪。但是,我相信他自己心里很清楚,他的所谓解决方案其实并不靠谱。
因为,这个世界不是非黑即白,利益关系的纠结并不仅限于劳资对立。就拿片头失去房子的那家来说吧,他们在那里居住了一辈子了,为什么会被赶走?如果是祖产,应该不是因为房价过高而断供。可以合理的预测,本来夫妇俩有很低的固定月供(15年到30年。或者他们本来没有月供,因为是从长辈那里继承来的。还不上贷款的原因是因为拿这个房子的最新估值重新申请了贷款,而且最有可能的是一个前两年只付利息不付本金的浮动利率贷款。这才有男主人后来说的每月的账单都在涨,直到无法支付。麦克没有问的是:他们为什么要贷款和新贷款的用途。BBC有个电影叫《自由落体》,对次贷的各方有更详尽的描述。
http://i.mtime.com/1375117/blog/2983041/。我们常说,在街头被骗的几乎都是贪小便宜的,如果没有自身的贪婪,华尔街也很难得逞,天下本没有免费的午餐。作为一个资深的制作人,实在不应该如此断章取义。
还有就是对几位总统的褒贬,除了罗斯福,其他的人基本上都是小丑。麦克有自己的偏见,而且乐于在影片中强调这种偏见,但是看片的人首先需要知道他有偏见,才能从他提供的信息中得出自己的分析。这里,我想大家应该去看刘瑜写的《民主的细节》,参考一下一个真正的社会学学者看待问题的角度。她有一篇文章是写麦克的《Sicko》的,其中把麦克义愤填膺提出的问题用了一句话作为反问:谁来买单?提问题永远比解决问题容易,提问题是麦克的价值所在,但他并没有解决方案。从某种意义上来讲,麦克是一个机会主义者,他通过简化问题而提出貌似直接的解决办法。如果我们完全照他的来,肯定会乱套。比如他赞扬了那位发明新药而不要专利的科学家,但同时又为飞行员和麦当劳的经理工资一样低而愤愤不平。到底知识的价值是什么标准,他自己大概也没搞清楚。
我们的世界里有没有绝对完美的制度?自由与平等是否永远统一?刘瑜作为一个深刻理解政治和社会结构的学者,没有试图给我们简单的解决方案,而是通过一个个小例子给我们尽可能的提供更多的信息,强调从不同角度看问题的必要性。就拿看麦克的电影来讲,她会去找自己的数据来验证麦克提出建议的可行性。拿几个悲剧人物博得同情容易,理解社会大框架下的各种矛盾才是最终理社会发展方向的前提。同样,她直言不会选奥巴马当总统,而是会选麦克凯恩。当大多数人都把目光放在一个会说口号,会发动群众的明星身上时,有几个真正理性的人会注意政客真正的价值和业绩?
麦克的意义在于,他意识到弱势群体的处境,利用他自己的才能,为这些群体发出声音,他让你激动。刘瑜的意义在于,告诉我们事情为什么会是这样,民主体现于每一天的一件件小事,而不是一个空洞的概念或者是包治百病的良药,她让你思考。
奥巴马上台已久了,可是他所声称的改变并没有达到追随者的期望,我想麦克也是失望的人之一吧。说的容易,做起来难。民主党的老巢马萨诸塞最近让一个共和党人当了州长也算是选民一种回归理性的表现。就像麦克影片里讲的,每个人都有一票,这一票代表了他们的权利和权力。如果共和党人真是一无是处,那么这只能说人民愚昧了。
对照着书看电影,算是一种新的体验,此为第一篇。
The other day I was watching Real Time. As usual, Bill and his panel - Arianna Huffington and Andrew Sorkin in this case - talked about how the Corporate America, especially those financial elites, rip off the hard-working middle class people and get away with it with tons of taxpayers' money in their pockets. As the heat mounted, it is, of course, inevitable to raise doubts about and criticize the existing system. Then, all of sudden, I was shocked, and partly amused, by how these spouts resemble what we have been preached throughout our education. Greed, exploitation, and ultimately the populist revolt. This type of rhetoric sounds no strange to us; for this is what we are expected, if not ordered, to believe in. And yet, to the American people, particularly the younger generation, it sounds just as exotic and remote as a fashionable historic curiosity.
There are more of these moments to find in Michael Moore's documentary, Capitalism: A Love Story. Jimmy Carter's presidential statement that "we are at a turning point in our history" in that "human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns" called for the very same thing the Eight Honors and Eight Disgraces is intended to. The only difference here is that one has perished amid the laissez faire spree triggered by the president's successor, while another is ongoing in an emerging superpower experiencing an astounding economic growth and faced with increasingly polarized distribution.
Carter also rightly decried that "too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption". Ironically enough, this is exactly where Ronald Reagan thrived. By cutting taxes by a enormous margin, by packing those ideas that Carter hated and warned against into the doctrine of capitalism and the almighty power of the free market, the Republican president created a robust consumption-driven economy and garnered tremendous popularity. Historically, this was also a significant period of what Walter R. Mead, an advisor to Henry Kissinger, described as the breakdown of the blue model. Union power declined, competition intensified - just as Michael Moore lamented in the film, it was not an easy time for everybody. However, the cosmetic served well. With new policies well implemented, economic index responded with great numbers. So did the stock market, so did the financial sector; and so people say of the economy and the president's legacy. Indeed, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
But this does not solve the moral problems incurred by the ever greater gap between the wealthy and the poor. In an electoral democracy, for a policy, or more precisely -- an ideology to become legitimate it has to promote the core ideas that have been deeply rooted in this nation ever since its foundation - well known as the "American dream" - which, in its simplest form, requires two most basic elements: freedom and equal opportunities. Of course, it is no difficulty to claim freedom in a capitalism for it is already a "free market", but the concept of "equal opportunities" is not an easy case. How could everyone be equal in a system in which more capital could be gained out of capital itself? How is deregulation supposed to promote equality when the ones with more wealth is granted with access to more influence, and hence even more wealth? This is where the economists, along with their terrifying-sounding jargons, weighed in. Drawing on one after another premises that are too good - and too simple - to be true, they derived elegant models functioning perfectly in equilibriums yet inherently inconsistent with reality. But politicians, as they always do, conveniently neglected those flaws in nature and with the help of speechwriters blended the pretty conclusions into their exciting orations. The "invisible hand", what a tempting yet handy idea - it's like finding the key to the ultimate mystery of the universe - sparing us the tedious thoughts of how our society and economy really work, develop, and interact with fast changing circumstances. Capitalism and the free market, as the Cold War ended in the collapse of the Soviet Union, soon earned their unchallengeable status in the realm of economic expertise. This, I firmly believe, is the ugly but real side of the truth: people blindly come to believe in those slogan-like theories not because of prudence, but because of laziness; for it is the one of the most common human nature of us to see what we want to see.
But, how about the immoral and unchristlike worship of "self-indulgence and consumption"? It indeed sounds like a righteous warning, doesn't it? Let me put this in relatively vague words for the sake of a bit wit here. When people see and hear of the media promotions of smoking elaborately plotted and sponsored by big evil tobacco companies, as depicted in Hollywood products, in either an upbraiding or a nostalgic way, they easily buy it, assuming that's what surely is bound to happen, as though the condescending liberal media elites just reclaimed their integrity out of blue. Nonetheless, contradictory to the common ground that government and politicians are evil, hypocritical, or, at best, incompetent, when it comes to massive political propaganda people easily get dismissive, disdainfully calling them conspiracies. Anyway, were those speculations to have been true, you have got to give applause to the gentlemen behind the curtain, for they can somehow manage to manipulate people to do and believe in things that are obviously against their own interests. It is truly a tour de force, works like magic.
Back to the film, and the ideology talk partly thanks to its title. It is amazing how frequently and strongly Michael Moore stress the term "socialism". And not in a Cold-War-minded way, but in a progressive and advocating way. So advocating that it proclaims socialism is the unfulfilled dream of FDR. So, how does the landscape really looks like in the US? Is it as biased as either side insists? Trying to answer that question, another popular liberal president, Jed Bartlet, would probably say, "Give me numbers." Fair enough. Let's take a look at them:
http://filer.blogbus.com/4598556/45985561268749559s.gifhttp://filer.blogbus.com/4598556/45985561268749552q.gifThis poll was conducted earlier this year. It shows that, significantly, though 58% of Americans still maintain a negative image of socialism, among Democrats and leaner a majority of people share a positive one, and that majority grows even bigger when it comes to liberals, topping the "supermajority" threshold at 61%.
Also underlined in the film is Barack Obama's ascendency in polls during the '08 presidential election, which Michael Moore arbitrarily attributed to the underlying socialism in his rhetoric and agenda. It is easy to commit the mistake of post hoc ergo propter hoc, but the exhilarated crowd was real and hard. Young people, with their compassion and idealism yet to fade, are known to be the main components of the liberal base. This hypothetical electoral map below demonstrates that fact convincingly well:
http://filer.blogbus.com/4598556/45985561268757624r.jpgThese results altogether illustrate a sharp contrast with that across the Pacific, where the pro-capitalism outrage amid the young is burgeoning seemingly as fast as the economic growth. The bottom line is that it is widely acknowledged that China's economy and growth model are in fact ill and flawed, but is capitalism the solution to all our conundrums? I am too often astounded by the extend to which some of our professors and pundits, who are supposed to think and analyze in a much more comprehensive way, appear so naive as to blame many problems on the markets not being open, free, and in essence capitalist enough. The contemporary history of the US has already showed the idealistic promises of capitalism that everyone shares an equal opportunity to work his way into the upper class are nothing but a fantasy; in reality, it is never in its purest form but other derivatives, namely, crony capitalism. Which does little good to the society as a whole but quite the opposite, creating even more inequality in the long run. In an economy that is strong and hence resilient to tentative turbulences so long as the marginal well-being stays positive, it might take decades for a bubble to burst. Nevertheless, in an over populated nation governed by a young regime dealing with various inherent social tensions, it could lead to catastrophe.
So, what does all this imply? Should we just entirely reject the Western philosophies as merely historical blunders? Of course not. To me the very point here is that we are bestowed - in an ironic way - with this dual perspective on the nature of human society, in terms of how social progressivism driven by different values eventually converge at promoting human equality and how dogmatism could be manipulated to impede that momentum and ultimately undermine our integrity. For a nation in the face of a seemingly unstainable economy, for a people shadowed by a wobbling ethical system, this is an utterly important issue.
一部让我看到金融危机给美国普通民众究竟带来多大灾难的电影。我想这部电影,导演想告诉我们的是:金融危机不是天灾,不是无法控制的灾难,而是由人性之贪婪引发的一场人祸。
有人批判导演的主观,有人批判这部电影是站在利益遭到损害的人的立场上说话,但我庆幸我这社会主义一名普通的民众能看到世界上最富有的国家里身处和我一样阶级的人告诉我,他们目前的生活现状。这部电影轻轻刺痛了我对未来的憧憬,让我反思我的现在、我的生存坏境,关注我们的政治经济体制。不能不说,它就像吸尘器一样,让我这粒小灰尘明白,我们以为的安全感从来都是自以为是,当你遭受欺骗的时候,你要不承受,要不就反抗,再不就让自己成为金字塔尖的那1%的像美国高盛的主管。
其实从来都知道这些,只是再一次展现在眼前时,从来没有料到现状如此触目惊心,如此规模之大,如此地不受控制。大部分都没觉察到,或许只有此时此刻,才会引起反思,金融危机造成的影响才会备受重视。
利用剪辑灌输自己观点,这一点上,他做的很好
不管摩尔政治观点怎么样有无漏洞,当年如此支持奥巴马有没有被打脸,“独立党派”桑德斯现在变民主党是否尴尬等,他确实是个把娱乐和叙述结合得非常好的导演,适当插入各种表情包一样的段落令人怀疑他是否经常在油管看恶搞视频😂,事情讲清楚了,也并不卖惨或过度煽动。当然一部电影肯定是不够的
一直挺喜欢Michael Moore讽刺的调调,这位老喜欢找茬的美国佬,应该觉得批评政府也是爱国的一种表现吧。
摩尔的人道主义关怀 - 区分capitalism & democracy. 资本主义是邪恶的, 只有民主是好的. 但是, 没有资本主义做基础的民主究竟是真正的民主吗? 纯粹的民主根底上只能是理想. 太多国家假民主却真贫穷. 效率与公平本身就是极难达成的平衡......
这片子不是给平头百姓看的。
每次看完迈克摩尔的电影,想到的第一句话总是“中国人民此刻内牛满面”
迈克摩尔是美国艾未未,除了他喜欢编造谎言之外,更大的区别还在于他生在了一个值得爱的国家。在我们这个无偿献血的地方,没有爱情故事,只有悲伤和愤怒。
摩尔是我见过当今最有社会洞见的导演,虽然很多地方有心无力,甚至方向偏颇,但仍然具有很大的社会意义,因为摸索是一个过程,试想如果全世界人民都能够清醒的辩证的去思考这个世界的运行,那么人类才会迅速的发展,苦难将会减少,社会合规律性不可违背,但历史任务需要做的就是调动人民的主观能动性…
没有在一个国家的理想与现实节节滑坡的惨象前一蹶不振,保持了积极的社会变革基调,仅就这一点便向Michael Moore致以崇高的敬意。不足是对解决问题的方法有所模糊,依然使用了“民主”这个模糊的概念。其中对Co-op的刻画极有启发,可继续展开。
片尾曲是摇滚版《国际歌》,观众起立鼓掌。估计中国人不会喜欢,因为他们爱的并不是美国,而是资本主义;Michael Moore爱的是美国,不是资本主义。
美国的可怕之处在于总有人能提出反对意见, 在良性循环中找到潜在的危险. 或许 Michael Moore 有点哗众取宠不招人喜欢. 反思国内, 我们的工会我们的权利在哪里?
1、迈克·摩尔做小题目,比如911,或者医保问题,得心应手,这个题目太大,他自己也不明白或者是装糊涂,着实驾驭不了。2、前两部还好,这一部里摩尔的“社会行动”/个人秀看起来着实地臭傻逼。3、没解决的核心问题在于,为什么富人富穷人穷,以及片中现象如何形成,没有解释,只有仇富和煽动
哪种主义都不是百忧解
胖子的表情!!
plutonomy,资本主义能让你无所不能,你想为太阳申请专利吗。。把民主和资本主义对立是有问题的。。。麦克默你敢再激进点么
an insane casino
还以为有多谴责,结果也只是批判一下前几任政府,寄希望于奥巴马。我几乎要认为这是奥巴马的政治宣传片了。另:房屋被没收,难道就没有平民过度透支的恶习起作用?我看不见得。Pussy!纪录片带了政治目的,就成了一坨烂货。
虽然我是个右派,但麦克摩尔这个大胖子总是能让我变得感性起来。
大坏胖子著名搅屎棍Michael.Moore再次袭来!
麦胖果然是红色阵营派到西方的奸细,他老拍一些《新闻联播》最爱放的东西——即美国人民都生活在水深火热之中