等待超人

记录片美国2010

主演:Geoffrey Canada,George Reeves

导演:戴维斯·古根海姆

 剧照

等待超人 剧照 NO.1等待超人 剧照 NO.2等待超人 剧照 NO.3等待超人 剧照 NO.4等待超人 剧照 NO.5等待超人 剧照 NO.6
更新时间:2024-04-11 04:40

详细剧情

  曾几何时,美国号称拥有世界上最好的公立教育系统,但在过去的三十多年里,虽然政客们不断强调要改善弊端丛生的教育系统,可是孩子们的教育情况始终没有任何改观,反而呈现令人担忧的前景。这些出生在普通家庭的孩子,多在阅读和数学方面存在着巨大的障碍,且平均水平大大低于地球上其他发达国家。甚至有的高中成为了臭名昭著的辍学工厂,无数少年过早进入社会,国家在一名囚徒身上的花费远远高于花在一名学生身上的经费。美国当前的公立教育系统,呈现着本末倒置的吊诡局面。是该积极行动起来,一扫这一领域中的弊端,还是呆呆坐在地上,等待超人的出现?  本片荣获2010年圣丹斯电影节观众奖最佳纪录片奖。

 长篇影评

 1 ) 摇号的公平与不公平

“分班制”的教育体系满足了社会的分工,为社会输送了不同人才,最好的精英学生去做了医生,律师,中等偏上的去做了白领,中等偏下的去做了工人,最差的学生去做了农民。大家各司其职,让社会正常运转。这在哪个国家不是这样呢?目前中国的大学生太多素质不高就业困难,国家就开始号召去读技术学校做技术工人了。我的孩子们再这样荒废在游戏和短视频上,能做技术工人就不错了。

电影拍“摇号”那段很煽情,比起靠人脉靠金钱能进好学校的体制,“摇号”已经算是很“公平”了,都是为了解决生源多好学校少的问题。换一个角度,其实急需解决的是教育资源过度集中造成的问题。当然“摇号”对于那些付出努力好好学习的学生,绝对没有“考试”公平。现实生活中两位同事的儿子今年参与摇号,同样参摇10%几率的学校华育和复旦兰生,一个个人和家长都努力的好学生未摇到华育,另一个家长懒惰不调教孩子而孩子自己上课作业都懒得的边缘孩子摇到了复旦兰生。前者很失落我们也为之惋惜,后者洋洋得意,自以为学校可以帮他调教好儿子了。我们旁观者不做假设评论,但是看Alex一同学进了神仙学校,毕业落到古美的经验,估计他是在痴心妄想了,梦想种豆得瓜了。

电影里的几位孩子都是自己很努力很上进的孩子,为了后面他们摇号失败赢取观众的同情心。其实在贫民窟地区,家长本身不重视教育,不上进而沉迷街头的小混混孩子占了大多数。固然是环境影响了他们,他们也是环境的一部分。Alex和Eric今后如何,我也只能等待时间给予答案了……无能为力

 2 ) 这个世界没有superman

1. 教育公平。
教育资源的差异总是客观存在的,因此无论哪个国家,教育公平都是一个问题。
中国解决教育资源分配的方式是,分数和钱。美国解决教育资源分配的方式是,运气和钱。哪种方式更公平?我不知道。对于没有得到好的教育资源的人来说,他们确实就是丧失了机遇了。

2. 学什么?
电影中一直侧重的,也是孩子们对于大学的憧憬,以及美国学生的POOR PERFORMANCE in academic, 特别是数学和阅读。 学校是学习知识的地方,这种第一反应,无论在哪种文化中,都根深蒂固。哪怕加德纳的多元智能理论已经提出来好像将近20年了?
但是有的时候好的成绩好像其实是附属品。 孩子们先享受学习,有了“never give up”的信念,合作的气氛,有自信,有好的身体。。。然后自然而然的有好成绩。这些FOUNDATION,看上去都跟好成绩没有关系。所以,你觉得,孩子应该先学什么呢?

标准化测试在我看来,一个不合理的地方在于它其实有可能不符合学生学习的规律。假设中学生的知识架构是一点点搭起来的, 要是有个地方没有搭好了,之后的发展肯定不好。但事实上有可能学习的开窍时间有差异。有人5岁学会阅读,有的14岁才学会阅读。测试可以作为反馈的参考依据,可以作为数据,但其实不适合拿来做评判依据,尤其是早年的。成长是个过程,wakening 需要时间,为什么不能多给点时间给孩子?片中有个学校说,我们不TRACK学生的成绩,我们相信每个孩子都有权利得到高水平的教育。说不定这正是他们成功的一大原因。

3.怎么教?
另一方面来说,不管是哪种教育理论,华德福也好,蒙台梭利也好,瑞吉欧也好,落实到最后还是跟老师的实践有关。好的老师,有好的品格,有教学的热情,有教学的技巧,有知识储备。缺一不可。
片中有镜头是说美国老资历的老师不思进取,放任学生在课堂上捣乱,也不教学,还不能被解雇,这个的确很SHOCK.如果有这样的老师在,哪种教育理论都没用。
从这个点上来说,行政的力量还是能有点效用的。 DC特区的教育特别行政官, RHEE 女士给学校老师带来了危机感。 刚查了下新闻,她的改革还在继续:http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/24/education/24teachers.html?_r=1。无论是RHEE女士还是老师,都不容易。而从为了孩子的未来来说,这些努力又都是必要的。

这个世界如果有SUPERMAN的话,最有可能的是你自己。是学生,是对教育充满热情的老师,是对教育改革很有想法的那些LEADER。 我不喜欢WAITING这个词, why not use "Being"?

PS:1.这个电影是我们学院租下了一个剧场,特意组织的私映。整个剧场差不多都满了,来了大半的学生和教授,还有一些校友。这些人suppose 都是真的关心教育关心孩子的,也是教育改革的希望。
2. 教育是个很复杂的命题。还有家长,有社区,有文化什么的区别,尤其是美国这种地方。这部片子够煽情,但是深度有些不够。
3. 我其实很好奇,那失败的4/5的CHARTER SCHOOL,都是为什么?

 3 ) 飞空

《华盖集》的题记里道,“我幼时虽曾梦想飞空,但至今还在地上……”。
生活之殇,大抵如此,
举世之间,大抵也是相通的吧。

 4 ) 纪录片结构分析

Davis Guggenheim。留意到他是因为他给Obama 2012竞选拍摄的宣传性纪录片,以及他的姓氏。

这个人的片子叙事结构很有特点,条理是清晰的,但也总会有一种激情贯穿,欲扬先抑做的非常好,看完之后总是觉得不仅是在看一篇论文,但同时也是在听一个充满激情的演讲(没有说是战斗檄文,因为我还没看到他太过于有针对性和带有攻击性观点的片子)。

为了能弄清楚他到底是怎么去讲一件事情的,所以在被片子结尾感动到热泪盈眶的时候,我又重新播放了一遍,并且把片子里所有的能记录下来的叙事点和分析点都记录下来,按照文章结构形式整理出来,以便学习他讲故事的方式。可能会有错漏或偏差,可以留言指正之。

Education Narration (daily life of families and normal thinking of kids)
• Statement Narration:
o Kid’s response to math question (Narrative)
o School day morning (Narrative)
o Choice between public school and private school (Narrative)
o Lottery for a school(Narrative)
• Student Sample Interview – dreams and school performance (from low-income families)
• Get in a good school, because bad school ruins kids (Point of view: importance to grab a seat in good school, and it worth to struggle )


Reality and Analysis to system, school and teachers, from perspectives of nation, family and individual kid
• Education Reality (Nation)
o Education system – the education expense comparison
o Education system – Efforts from government
o Status of students’ performance (by national test to all students) under current system
• Education Reality (School)
o How the school environment influences the student individuals
• Education Reality (Family)
o What else factors have influenced the individual education level? (Question)
        Family environment (subjective) – parents did not receive well education (from sample). (Narrative)
        Family environment (objective) – parents all wish their kids to get well education (from sample). (Narrative)
• Realities Narration of Basic Education: Public Schools (Narrative)
o Most public schools assigned by bills are “dropout factories”.
o Result – Kids are forced to get in these bad schools thought they hoping for good educations like their families. (Indication: not fair)
o Person who brings change – Michelle Ree
• Realities Analysis of Basic Education: Public Schools
o Causes of realities of public schools – local regulations and resources assignment plan have refrain the school management and teacher’s mind from what it is supposed to be like simply accept the support from states then make school simply as a good place for kids to get good education.
o Reaction to reality
        Kids: Why kids hate schools? (Indication: Bad teachers.)
        Parents: Why should my kids suffer from a bad education? (Indication: Unfairness brought by education systems)
• Teachers and the reality of schools:
o What good teachers mean to education? What differs good teachers from bad teachers?
o Supposed solution: Why can’t we get rid of bad teachers? (Question)
o Solution obstacle:
        Tenure employment for teachers, even for the bads
        Rewards for teachers are all fixed for every teacher, no matter good ones or bad ones
        Teacher union are overprotecting and even have more rights to get involve in politics
• Admit the devotion by good teachers, and pointing to the regulation of teacher union
• How schools acting under current situation towards teachers?
o Lemon Dance – throw the garbage to other schools – result: several public school will have more bad teachers and make those school worse
o Rubber Room – isolate all the bad teachers, paying them for nothing but waiting for reassignment – result: cost loads of money 100 million dollars/year for NY
• Change to this situation:
o A new solution – Charter schools: public school + public money + independent running
o Reform to the public schools – MR has shut down bad public schools
        Teachers lose their jobs
        Bring a more furious competition to get in a good school
• Performance comparison between public school, private school and charter school : Charter school is the seemingly best choice for those low-income family but still wants to strive for good educations
• Public school development narration (Reality): What makes public school become a failure like this? Public schools are good till 70s, and have made top people in various fields
• Public school development analysis (Cause): the education system is falling behind. Education in old days is not aiming to get everyone in to university, but as the global economy developing and talent needs, everyone has to get into university to survive.
• Answer to the Cause:
o Some charter schools does not track students give students equal opportunity to compete for university education.
• Employment and education status narration (Reality): The future of country economy comes from innovations.
• Employment and education status analysis (Cause): Education on Math and Science and Technology is important.
• Answer to the Cause:
o School has different focus on nurturing kids’ interests, and there are charter schools focusing on education of math and science.
• People’s living standard in US narration (Reality): Poor and rich seem to be set.
• People’s living standard in US analysis with instance of “sound speed of flights” (Cause): the only way to get out from poor is to get well education.
• Person to answer the call:
o Ambitious educators establish the “baby college” program, and have proved that charter school works for changes in providing good education to low-income families.

Changes
• New hope arises, and kids are desperately hoping to get in those good schools.
• MR is making some positive changes:
o Good performance from survived public schools
o Better staff resources assignment: reassign the good staffs from bad schools.
o Reform on tenure that can also satisfy teacher union: the teacher accept renewed contract with standard of performance review will get double income
• US are making change on education system, and good school can’t go with good teachers.
• Reality with hope: School lottery (echoing the beginning of the film) and lottery result (indication: still have way to go, but change is coming)

我记录了电影结尾的quotes,跟John Legend的Shine放在一起,这些文字真的是足够煽情。

“We need good proves… leading people to say yes, we can do this” – Bill Gates
“We need to know… if there is fortitude to lead them from the situation (even that comes with big sacrifice) …” – Michelle Ree
Don’t give up.
“Our system is broken, and it feels impossible to fix. But we can’t wait.
Great school comes from great people.
In every city, people are doing it everyday, people like you.
There are steps you can takes to create great schools.
We know what works to create your schools, to create any school, to create every school: quality teachers, more classroom time, world class standards, high expectations, real accountability.
The problem is complex, but steps are simple.
It starts with teachers becoming the very best teachers, leaders removing the barriers to change, neighbors committed to their school.
Great school won’t come from winning the lottery.
They won’t come from superman.
They will come from you.”

回头再去看前面分析,其实还是觉得有一些分析是欠缺的,譬如教育对于贫富差距的改善等,但是Davis很好的用激励的事例去说服,毕竟这并不是一部要如何辩证证明的纪录片,它更大的作用是让人们去相信改变,并且不要放弃。我想这也是为什么我总能觉得他是在演讲而不是在辩论的原因。但能做到这样,对我来说也是非常厉害的了。

 5 ) 展现了一些美国教育体制问题

摇号那段挺残酷的,我不喜欢看到想读书的人因为外界原因读不了书。

看的时候总是不自觉拿里面的教育体制和我国相比。

终身制老师我国也有,摆烂的老师我国也有,所以最近几年有些地区会实行淘汰制,对老师进行评估然后淘汰。编制的数量也在减少,竞争在变大。中心小学招聘的教师是研究生,至少本科。

国家逐年对九年义务教育的私立学校转化为公立,不再批准新的私立学校建立,就是防止好老师都被挖去私立学校了。

前一两年扩招了幼儿园教师编制,好的公立学校都要靠摇号进去,我妹妹摇号进公立幼儿园失败,其它幼儿园既然要9000一个学期,我当时震惊的问这是贵族学校吗?得到的回答是贵族幼儿园需要15000……

我们国家的政策是真的在为寒门谋利啊。甚感欣慰。

你说好的社区决定于好的学校,好的学校决定于好的老师……

我只能说“教师为主导,学生为主体。”,以及家校合作。如果家长不帮助教师树立权威,不配合教师的教育方法,在学校老师教的再好,一个暑假或者一个周末就可以让学生倒退了。

我们这种高时长的学习有用吗?是有用的,成绩有很大提高,但是在思想上教育的遗漏让我们为其他国家培育“人才”。或者是只会“做题”毫无创新的人。

我看到过有句话这么说:发达国家把钱都投入了大学,而基础教育他们却没有仔细搞,为什么?他们只需要吸引各国“人才”过去为他们所用,捡现成的,而同样资金投入到基础教育则收获的人才数量效果不会那么好。

国家倡导素质教育,倡导德智体美劳全面发展,取消义务教育的主课的课外补习班,禁止公开排名,这对大多数的底层人民是好还是坏?如果没有题海战术的加持,还降低了试题难度,大多数人都会平平无奇吧,可能会有时间花在玩乐上。但从这个孩子的长远看,嗯……好像不管家庭条件好不好,如果孩子没意识到读书的重要性,补不补习好像没多大影响。但……这要发展五边形战士……这可太难了,以综合分数比较。真就看学生自觉了。

看这个电影才意识到美国“单轨制”的一级级的淘汰——让少部分精英上大学,大多数人当工人。这造成很多人没有大学文凭,没有办法接受技能培训,这完全赶不上美国所需技术人员的庞大数量。教育的缺失造成无业、犯罪,不愧是发达国家,给犯罪的人福利待遇那么好,想进监狱摆烂很正常。

至于编制教师直接上课看报纸,水时间,好像我没遇到过这么差的,教学任务是强制性要完成的。老师不管被捧得多么高大上,它都是一份职业而已,在其位谋其职,完成工作任务是工作的基本要求。如果基本的教学任务完成不了,学校可以进行辞退,这大概是为什么没出现教师不完成教学任务的情况吧。

这是2010年电影了,不知道美国教育体制有没有改变。看到里面显示美国的数学平均成绩排后面,但是对自己数学能力的自信排第一,我笑了。哈哈哈哈

还挺好看吧,就是有点长和累赘。

 6 ) Review of waiting for superman

This semester , I took a course called looking at American education through movies . At the first class , our teacher showed us a documentary called waiting for superman . It gives me a lot new ideas about American and American education after watching it.

Waiting for "Superman" is a 2010 American documentary film directed by Davis Guggenheim and produced by Lesley Chilcott . By following five students , the film criticizes the American public education system : inequity of education resources , teachers do not take work seriously , bloated public education system …These problems have led to a decline in the quality of education in the United States : the grades of reading and math have not improved since 1970s , a lot students can not be admitted into university , increase of crime rate …

The film changes my view of America . I have not been to America before , the way I know about America just is watching American movies . especially Hollywood movies . In my old view , America is the best nation in the world , it has the best university , people all over the world want to go to America . It seems that everything is perfect , and there is no issues in America. But the film tells me that problems are everywhere , no matter in America .

I got known that American education and Chinese education have both Commonality and differences . America and China both have public education system , which is free for every students . However , America private education is well developed , while Chinese is not . The best schools in America are private schools . But on the contrary , the best schools in China are established by government. Perhaps it is may because of the culture and history . Besides , the education system of America and China is same . A kid will get into primary school when he grows up , and then junior school , high school . When he Reach the appropriate level , he will be admitted into a university . That is same as China . Another difference I find is that assessment method between America and China is different . We Chinese students have to take gaokao before we get into university , and there are six course exams in gaokao . But students in America is examined by reading and math ability .

The above is my observation . All in all , education is a very important part to the development of human being . As the end of the film said , good education is not from superman , it is from everyone of us . We should take it seriously and take actions . By the way , if there is any chance , I would like to go to America to experience American education by myself .

2018.6

 短评

他们说的解决方法怎么像应试教育唉

5分钟前
  • Icarus
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小结一下:被釆访的学生家庭中一个亚裔都没有;美国公立教育质量差,为什么说差,中国的也差呀?但是我们没花他们那么多钱、每个人头上

7分钟前
  • 话不糙理糙
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国家在一名囚徒身上的花费远远高于花在一名学生身上的经费。看到了一个国家在教育体制改革上的无奈~~

10分钟前
  • 顾小默
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美国公立中小学教改(有钱人都去上私立了哟):教师工会成教改阻碍(废除终身教职失败,只奖不罚亦失败)、摇号录取法(当是买车牌啊?中国教育虽然糟糕但我上学时跨区择校是靠考分)、提高分数似乎还是得加长学时?盖茨说数学、科学、工程人才是发展经济的命脉——耳熟么?学好数理化走遍天下都不怕!

14分钟前
  • ζωήιδ
  • 还行

立意很好,内容无聊,论点有误

18分钟前
  • 庄常飞
  • 还行

美国也不是那么的天堂啊,一心想着要去美国读书的我其实并不了解他们的教育体系。

20分钟前
  • 臭臭
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无话可说。。。。真是需要多少幸运,我们才走到今天这一步。。。

24分钟前
  • forfaen
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同样的问题中国也存在

29分钟前
  • yegle
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他们在讨论教育公平,我们在追求马太效应。

31分钟前
  • 柏林苍穹下
  • 还行

一直搞不懂这种论文体的纪录片到底算不算纪录片。

32分钟前
  • 桃桃林林
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很到位,同时也有戏剧张力的纪录片。

33分钟前
  • SickDouban
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根据地域来划分学区有其好处,但是学生流通的不畅性是其最大的弊端,为何不向中国学习通过考试选拔呢,不过这又将变成一场考试大战,学生沦为考试的奴隶,在我们为美国唏嘘的同时,我们还是不要忘记,现在依然是美国的教育体系培养出了那么多诺贝尔奖获得者

37分钟前
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所以说教育难题举世瞩目,但话说回来,人家好歹还有个超人可以YY,我们捏?

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等待被叫号的时候,真的连心都是被揪着的。

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